Two schools of Hive marketing [EN/PL]
EN: On Hive, a prehistoric school of marketing dominates, and its most well-known promoter is @lordbutterfly. Its main principles are:
- put the logo wherever possible,
- attract as many users as possible with rewards.
We tried this approach during the first months of support from @valueplan, which is clearly visible in the clip below.
There is only one problem. This form of promotion may work in Africa or South America. But only in the short term—because once you stop giving out money, users suddenly disappear (see: Vibes). In Europe, this kind of promotion has a clear association: scam. As a result, most people react to such marketing by walking away. That’s why the Kingdom is taking a completely different path.
Over the past year, we’ve done a lot to make the Kingdom be seen in Kraków as a place of many diverse and interesting events. They didn’t have the word HIVE in their titles, but this helped us increase attendance by 250%, which in turn provides a great foundation for promoting our blockchain. Just in a completely different way than Lord Butter Fly would like. Instead of primitive, pushy advertising, we try to spark curiosity—so that people start the conversation themselves. How does this happen?
- They read our flyer (which does mention Hive, by the way) and ask about our currency.
- They see Justin Sun in the toilet, ask who he is, and hear a story about decentralization.
- We treat them to chocolate, they ask about the origin of the cocoa beans, and then we explain that @mcsamm smuggled them from a village where Hive built a borehole.
- They play our game involving finding Robert Makłowicz cutouts, they get the password HIVE KEYCHAIN, and then we explain how we use blockchain on many levels.
- They see HBD in the menu and ask what it is.
There will be more questions next week because @blind-spot will join us, starting the first project within Hive Voluntary Service (worth noting: we are funding it ourselves, without DHF or VP money). For two weeks he will help us promote Hive, organize @hivebeecon, and improve the Kingdom. During that time he will spend only HBD. No fiat. Just like Didi Taihuttu. A great story. And great stories sell well. You just have to remember to sell them right away, not five years after they happen—even if the buyer is Al Jazeera.

So when someone asks what benefits Hive gets from the Kingdom’s existence, the first answer is always: because we use Hive in ways no one else has thought of. We were the first physical location to accept HBD. Today, we are the only place in the world that uses the Hive blockchain not only for crowdfunding but also for governance. In the near future, we will be a testing ground for solutions developed by @thebeedevs.
It is not in Hive’s interest to plaster everything in the Kingdom with logos or to onboard as many users as possible. The goal is for Hive to be part of the Kingdom’s success. A success story is worth more than thousands of blog posts with 10 views each. Why? Because a success story can be sold. Where? So far:
- on several podcasts,
- in a webinar hosted by Slot Art Festival,
- at the Slot Art Festival itself,
- in an interview for Lithuanian television,
- in a bachelor’s thesis,
- at the Zondacrypto educational center.
In all of these places, when talking about the Kingdom, it was always emphasized that the Hive blockchain plays a key role in our system. The most important example, of course, is the last one, because it allowed us to establish contact with the largest exchange in the region and brought us closer to listing HIVE. That’s why I dare say that supporting the Kingdom has been the best-spent money in the entire Value Plan. Even setting aside the potential listing, it’s thanks to the Kingdom and its wide-ranging activities that information about Hive is appearing in places where it never would have otherwise.
And the best part is that even if Value Plan ended tomorrow, the Kingdom would still keep doing what it does. Just like since 2018, helping people create accounts and being “the last friendly home” for Hive users. Without support there would be some slowdown, of course—but it would definitely not end like Vibes, with no lasting effect whatsoever.
PL: Na Hive dominuje prehistoryczna szkoła marketingu, której najbardziej znanym promotorem jest @lordbutterfly. Jej główne założenia to:
- wklejenie logotypu gdziekolwiek się da,
- przyciągnięcie jak największej liczby użytkowników za pomocą nagród.
Próbowaliśmy tej drogi w pierwszych miesiącach wsparcia z @valueplan, co zresztą widać doskonale na poniższym klipie.
Jest tylko jeden problem. Taka forma promocji może zadziałać w Afryce lub Ameryce Południowej. W dodatku na krótką metę, bo jak przestaniesz rozdawać pieniądze, to nagle użytkownicy znikną (przypadek Vibes). W Europie taki sposób promocji kojarzy się jasno: ze scamem. W efekcie u większości ludzi reakcją na taki marketing jest ucieczka. Dlatego Królestwo idzie zupełnie inną drogą.
Przez ostatni rok zrobiliśmy naprawdę wiele, aby Królestwo było postrzegane w Krakowie jako miejsce wielu, różnorodnych i ciekawych wydarzeń. Nie miały słowa HIVE w nazwie, ale to pozwoliło nam zwiększyć frekwencję o 250%, co z kolei jest świetną bazą do promocji naszego blockchainu. Ale zupełnie inną drogą niż chciałby tego Lord Latające Masło. Zamiast nachalnego marketingu z epoki kamienia łupanego próbujemy zaintrygować ludzi, tak że sami rozpoczynają rozmowę. Jak to się dzieje?
- Czytają naszą ulotkę (swoją drogą Hive jest w niej wspomniany) i pytają o naszą walutę.
- Widzą Justina Suna w toalecie, pytają kto to jest i dostają historię o decentralizacji.
- Częstujemy ich czekoladą, pytają o pochodzenie ziarna i wtedy mówimy, że przemycił je @mcsamm z wioski, gdzie Hive wybudował studnię.
- Grają w naszą grę polegającą na szukaniu Robertów Makłowiczów, otrzymują hasło HIVE KEYCHAIN i wtedy opowiadamy o tym, jak wykorzystujemy blockchain na wielu różnych poziomach.
- Widzą HBD w menu i pytają co to jest.
Za tydzień dojdzie do tego obecność @blind-spot, który rozpocznie pierwszy projekt w ramach Hive Voluntary Service (warto dodać, że finansujemy go sami bez środków z DHF lub VP). Przez dwa tygodnie będzie pomagał nam w promocji Hive, organizacji @hivebeecon i ulepszaniu Królestwa. Przez ten czas będzie wydawać wyłącznie HBD. Bez użycia pieniądza fiducjarnego. Niczym Didi Taihuttu. Świetna historia. A świetne historie dobrze się sprzedają. Trzeba tylko pamiętać, by sprzedać je od razu, a nie 5 lat po tym jak się wydarzyły. Nawet jeśli nabywcą jest Al Jazeera.

Gdy więc ktoś pyta, jakie korzyści ma Hive z istnienia Królestwa, to pierwszą odpowiedzią będzie zawsze: bo wykorzystujemy Hive do rzeczy, o których nikt inny nie pomyślał. Byliśmy pierwszym fizycznym miejscem, które zaczęło akceptować HBD. Obecnie jesteśmy jedynym miejscem na świecie, które używa blockchainu Hive nie tylko do crowdfundingu, ale również zarządzania. W niedalekiej przyszłości będziemy poligonem dla rozwiązań tworzonych przez @thebeedevs.
W interesie Hive nie jest oblepienie wszystkiego logotypami w Królestwie, nie onboarding jak największej ilości użytkowników, tylko bycie częścią sukcesu Królestwa. Historia sukcesu jest więcej warta niż tysiące blogerów publikujących wpisy, które mają 10 odsłon. Dlaczego? Bo historię sukcesu można sprzedać. Gdzie? Do tej pory:
- w kilku podcastach,
- w webinarze organizowanym przez Slot Art Festival,
- na samym Slot Art Festivalu,
- w wywiadzie dla litewskiej telewizji,
- w pracy licencjackiej,
- w centrum edukacyjnym Zondacrypto.
We wszystkich tych miejscach opowiadając o Królestwie zawsze była mowa o tym, że kluczową rolę w przyjętym systemie odgrywa blockchain Hive. Najważniejszy oczywiście jest ostatni przykład, bo pozwolił on na nawiązanie kontaktu z największą giełdą w regionie i przybliżył nas do listingu HIVE. Dlatego śmiem twierdzić, że wsparcie Królestwa, to najlepiej wydane pieniądze w całym Value Planie. Pomijając potencjalny listing, to właśnie dzięki Królestwu i jego szerokiej działalności informacja o Hive pojawia się w miejscach, w których nigdy by się nie pojawiła. A najlepsze w tym wszystkim jest to, że nawet gdyby jutro zlikwidowano Value Plan to Królestwo wciąż będzie robiło swoją robotę. Tak jak robi ją od 2018 roku bezinteresownie pomagając w zakładaniu kont i będąc dla użytkowników Hive "ostatnim przyjaznym domem". Bez wsparcia oczywiście nastąpi lekkie spowolnienie, ale na pewno nie skończy się tak jak w przypadku Vibes, czyli bez żadnego trwałego efektu.
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It is easy though talking shit without reading the "receipts" I posted over last few days of "merit".
I guess clicking comments and replies next to my name is significantly harder than posting this comment.
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So the biggest sporting event in the World, mind you, not only in Europe, UCL has no problem with promoting something thats literally called CRYPTO.COM but you know you cant promote Hive and have to literally hide the Hive branding! which you admit yourself.
I dont care about the attendance to your poetry and feminism readings and your attendee sensibilities or if youre afraid people will stop coming to your poetry readings. I care about Hive promotion. You can do it, or you cant. There is no inbetween. That doesnt make you special, smart or anything positive, it makes you inept. If youre unable explaining to people that Hive isnt a scam you have no place promoting Hive.
If youre afraid, ashamed, incapable of promoting Hive, DO NOT ASK FOR HIVE MONEY!!!
Whats even worse is that Crypto.com pays less than 1 USD per average viewer over the course of the year. You are paid 2000 USD per atendee over the course of 6 months. So 4000 USD per year at this allocation. Whats the average atendance to Krolestwo, maybe 10-20 people?
We pay you 2000-4000 times more per viewer/atendee than Crypto.com does the biggest sporting event in the world.
And youre HIDING HIVE BRANDING! What in the absolute shitshow of an atrocity are you doing my man.
Calm down. We are working on listing HIVE on a cryptocurrency exchange. FREE instead of paying for listing. Do you understand that or are you just playing dumb?
No, you can do it right or wrong. Next week we're organizing @hivebeecon. Come and see for yourself that the truth is far from what you write.
Yeah, see, again you made me look. You seem to be utterly unable to grasp the concept of return on investment.
Anual meetup where 20-30 people hangout and you sell some tea, beer for HBD.
And thats completely fine, we can send 200 HBD and everyone there can drink all night. But that neither justifies the 35k HBD nor does it justify you REMOVING HIVE BRANDING FROM EVENTS THAT, btw HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HIVE (none of the 100s you do while we pay your rent), WHILE YOU USE OUR MONEY TO PROMOTE THOSE HIVE UNRELATED AND NONBRANDED EVENTS!
We would cover Hivebeecon with even more than 200 HBD if it was needed, thats not the issue at all, we do that all the time for hive events. Its everything else that you do thats the problem. Or should i say, that you do not do.
Don't worry. Hive is fully branded where it matters.
Your marketing methods have brought us to where we are today, which is the lowest price relative to BTC.
No, its your marketing methods that brought us here. Not mine. Yours. Funding crap like this is what brought us here.
Do you really want me to count how much money you've blown from Hive?
Yes, count how much money I have blown for Hive. Ill tell you how much Ive blown for Hive.
35k less than you.
But even if ive blown millions of dollars that would still not absolve you of what you did, unilaterally removing Hive branding from Krolestwo.
If you actually did that without telling GP, removed Hive branding after giving him the impression that you will be promoting Hive, and it seems like thats the case from what youre saying above, that constitutes literal fraud. You can be sued for that.
Are you really an idiot? Read my article 10 times, then another 20, and maybe you'll understand what it says. NOWHERE did I write that we removed Hive branding. I wrote that your marketing school, which consists of plastering EVERYTHING with logos, is crap.
BTW, where are the logos for Miami Art Week?
Trying to convince people that good promotional work is you being a chickenshit and hiding Hive branding because youre afraid of losing your poetry goers while spending OUR MONEY. That thats actually a good idea and a good approach. Not mentioning Hive in any of your events or organizing ZERO events about Hive, out of a 100 events you do on your calendar and claiming that what you do is a good expenditure of Hive funds. Saying that its a good thing that your Krolestwo posts average ZERO comments. Wheres your users? Who have you onboarded? Who follows what you write? Where are these people? 3 comments in 200 posts. I literally checked. 3 comments and they were all spam!!!! 35k HBD.
Whats the saying:
Youre pissing on my boots and telling me its raining.
Grow some balls, shoot up some testosterone if youre too scared what your feminism meetup goers will think about you promoting Hive.
Or dont ask for money! Ffs.
The more i look into this stuff, the more words come out of you the more insanely angry all this makes me.
That's a funny joke. We publish daily statistics there, not blog posts :D Who does your research? AI?
https://peakd.com/polish/@krolestwo/raport-wrzesien-2025
Are these your KPIs? How much money you raised for Krolestwo in donations? Thats your daily statistic?!
So we pay your rent and your KPIs are 10 people on average coming to events that have nothing to do with Hive where you removed Hive branding and donations you get for yourself from marketing funds we give you?
Someone DMed me over this and I literally told him that im getting a vibe that you are either autistic or simply nuts.
What you are doing with Hive funds, if not directly fraudulent (which it very likely is) is utterly insane.
Seriously, you can't analyze data from a simple table? 10/day was before the Value Plan support. Now it's 30/day. On weekends, we have more people than at HiveFest. Gandalf was there and saw it. But you don't have to be there to see it, because unlike you, I report on everything. You don't have to come to the Kingdom to see that there has been a huge amount of growth.
The problem is with you. There is no public report on Miami Art Week. Where are the Hive logos you care so much about? I looked through their official websites, social media, magazine. There is nothing anywhere.
I'm starting to wonder if this Al Jazeera thing isn't fake news generated specifically to cover up your incompetence. Especially since the only trailer on YouTube has... 57 views.
So 30 poetry readers for 35k. Wow.
Yeah, i can see your reports. a handful of poetry readers that give you donations we pay for. Amazing stuff.
Really! Well thats 2 times more than you get people to come to your poetry readings!🤣
You know what? I actually think there might be no film?! It doesnt exist.
Im still waiting for a response to see if you actually unilaterally removed Hive branding from Krolestwo without telling anyone at VP. Because that is fraud. From there we will see how we continue.
If you think these retarded accusations and dumb lies will help you, trust me, they wont.
Ok. Miami Art Week. Where are Hive logotypes?
On the poster. during the event. and on their website.
Sorry, it's not there.
Yes it is.
Ill abide, this one time with your horseshit accusations. Wont help you though. You wont be able to hide the Krolestwo bullshit by spamming nonsense.
Where are the logos on their social media?
They probably mailed them to you.
Okay, clear enough. There was no Hive logo anywhere on their social media. Which exchanges listed HIVE after this event?
I am asking because you did not mention it ANYWHERE. There was no information about the results of the tens of thousands spent on your trip.
😂
You are wasting Hive money while hiding Hive branding because youre ashamed and inconvenienced. You are spending 35k HBD in 6 months and not promoting Hive. Keep going.
It won't work. Repeating a lie 10 times doesn't make it true.
I think you got the point by now, everyone reading this did.
I would suggest you apply to Starkerz Hivehub project once it starts. In case I will actually have a say with VP fund distribution, I will not approve any more funding towards Krolestwo. Hive will not pay your rent so you can have poetry readings there with no Hive branding present.
Matt will give you clear pointers on what will be required from you. If you abide by those pointers and Krolestwo actually start promoting Hive and being a Hive hub, educational seminars, blockchain days, actually mentioning Hive on your social media and events... Ill have no problem with that.
Thank you for your time. I know you wasted a lot of mine.
Thanks for the great topic for future discussions. I don't know if we'll be reading feminist poetry at HiveBeeCon next week, but we'll definitely be talking about Miami Art Week.
As long as we arent paying for your feminist poetry readings feel free to talk about anything.
Haha. Dude. Youre not getting away with this. You can pull whatever bullshit you want and make whatever accusations you want. Attacking me wont help you at all, I'm squeaky clean. I always make sure I am squeaky clean. You are not.
Thats why I shut down Vibes. Because I am squeaky clean and I offer NO leniency to fraudulent behavior. I boot stomp it. Even though Vibes is by all metrics the most succesful VP funded project ever I boot stomped it because it got tainted by those participating.
And you are on the chopping block now my friend if I find out you unilaterally removed hive branding from Krolestwo while we were giving you promo money without telling anyone. Everything else is super bad about Krolestwo and your lack of branding and lack of Hive coverage on any of your events, but this is tantamount to fraud.
Do your research better. A month ago, GP posted a photo from the Kingdom with the Hive logo on X. It will be hard for anyone to believe your nonsense.
You know exactly what im saying.
I have no idea what you're talking about. Find our video, which has 212K views, and tell me if there's a Hive logo there or not.