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Do you feel safer after the US bombed Iran?

I don't.

I also don't know if it was the "right or wrong" thing to do, because I don't have anywhere near enough information. Information pushed through the internet, is not trustworthy. What I do have though is my own past experiences and the belief that the US government, and all governments, do not have the best interest of humanity in mind. They don't care who lives and dies, as long as they are able to keep their position, their control, their money machines printing.


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I find it off-putting that so many people trust governments when it comes to these kinds of actions, despite not trusting the same government with decisions that are far less significant. If a government can't even be trusted to make good decisions for their people on home soil, what makes people think that they will make good decisions in places on the other side of the world?

How can the US bomb a country and then say they aren't at war with that country?

While the charade might work at spinning the story to the average American, it is quite nonsensical. And, given all the history under the belt, all of this is likely to increase volatility, not lessen it.

The world is rapidly becoming more dangerous.

*I don't want to live in some post-apocalyptic world, decimated by war and nuclear fallout, and I don't want my daughter to live in it either. Yet, despite everyone seemingly thinking the same on this, it seems pretty inevitable that at some point, that is what is going to happen. And many even fancy themselves to survive in that kind of world.

They are fooling themselves.

People don't seem to fully comprehend how reliant we are on a whole range of social agreements to function. For example, if there was suddenly no government, do you think you would be okay? Maybe. However, will you be okay when 99% of everyone else surrounding you is not? Are you self-sufficient to the point that if attacked by an angry and hungry mob, you would be able to defend?

The average person can't even sit in traffic without losing their shit - just imagine what happens if the pressure rises in an environment where there is no order, and it becomes everyone for themselves. Sure, perhaps eventually we might be able to cobble something together to function, but how long will that take, and what kind of pathway will it take to get there? How many will actually survive. And none will survive unscathed.

It would make the Wild West seem like a walk through fields of flowers.

It is interesting though, as we have a huge amount of information available to us, but it really only serves to increase our confidence in our beliefs. We feel certain about situations we don't actually understand other than the information we have been fed from the media.

Dunning-Kruger effect anyone?

And we know the media lies for profit - and still we feel confident in what we have learned from them, because it supports our belief system. It is like the belief that international laws should be followed, unless it is "our side" breaking them for what we consider a good reason.

"The reason I didn't pay my taxes to you taxman, is because I want more money to spend."
Totally understandable. On your way.

And that makes a fuckload more sense, doesn't it? But hey, if you think the US government makes good decisions for its people, including bombing other countries, then you also think they make good decisions on taxes, and abortion laws, and corporate kickbacks, and lobby groups, and policing, and infrastructure and everything else they do.

Again, maybe bombing Iran was the right thing to do, maybe not. But I assume that those nuclear facilities were not empty and people died in the process. And if you believe that the Iranian government is evil, then you should also believe that they force people to do things that they might not want to do, right? But civilians and scientists are acceptable collateral damage, as long as they are on the other side of the world.

The problem is of course, we don't live a hundred years ago, so war doesn't stay on the other side of the world, and it isn't only fought by professional militaries. We live in a world that is already polarized and getting worse, with radicalisation far simpler, and amplified messaging through a thousand different channels, cheap.

Everyone has an opinion. Mine is:

The world is not safer.

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I don't feel safer and my investments don't feel safer either!

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War is great to make money - just not for the 99.9% of people :D

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If the United States had nuked Iran as part of the United Nations it would have been less hypocritical. In my opinion, it's not the place of the US to decide who owns a nuclear weapon or not, the nations of the world did not appoint the US Protector of the World. Trump might be feeling smug now until a great power like China or Russia or North Korea joins the conflict.

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There are only 9 countries that have nukes - who decided?

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You really do a great job in presenting your perspective and raising questions to open conversations and encourage critical thinking at a critical moment.
My hope is that this kind of work that you are doing by publishing your writing will be utilized as opportunities to combat that divisiveness which is being pushed upon the people more and more.
For one, it seems that many would agree that most if not all governments are mostly, if not completely, UNtrustworthy.
Let's talk about what we agree on especially.
One way in which we may fall into that trap of divisiveness is in the delusion that a government IS the people. Or that a "country" IS the people who happen to live there.
I think it is a profoundly important point that you make here in asking us to question whether any of the scientists and various "workers" who end up becoming "collateral damage.. If they are likely to be in their position by choice at all...
War and "not war," just ultra-violence, whatever garbage way they want to rename it, is a highly profitable business. It is only that. And it is only profitable for a very few. I know that I am not and never will be one of them. Are you?
We are losing. The parasites are robbing us, all of us more and less, but all of the people. I agree that none of the people are any safer now. It's a business. Only that. And we are literally nothing at all to the ones who profit by it.
For now, I'll leave off with this truth expressed by W.E.B DuBois, "The cause of war is preparation for war."

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War and "not war," just ultra-violence, whatever garbage way they want to rename it, is a highly profitable business. It is only that. And it is only profitable for a very few. I know that I am not and never will be one of them. Are you?

This is the case isn't it. It is just another money-making mechanism to use for more control and power to make more money in other areas. It is for the benefit of a micro minority, at the expense of mass suffering.

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Yes.. and while acknowledging the nuances of life is important...I think we also need to watch out for the situations in which the supposed "complications" are artificial and manufactured and serve only as mental traps designed to distract us and most of all DIVIDE us further.

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The average person can't even sit in traffic without losing their shit - just imagine what happens if the pressure rises in an environment where there is no order, and it becomes everyone for themselves.

The nine meals adage would probably be found to be accurate.

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I think I can confidently say that the US bombing Iran was the wrong thing to do.

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USA could give a rats ass about people being killed in Ukraine daily, but as soon as Israel asked to help them out Trump is right there with stealth bombers and fighters...

Even though his own intelligence chief Tulsi told him that Iran was years away from developing nuclear weapons.

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USA could give a rats ass about people being killed in Ukraine daily,

My sentiments too. Three years and nothing. Two days and ready to bomb. Like it was planned.

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In my opinion, your views on this unfortunate global situation we are experiencing (or suffering) are very accurate.
Neither Iran nor Trump are “my cup of tea,” as they say. My hope (perhaps a little naive) is that favorable agreements can be reached without these bloody and violent confrontations.
Unfortunately, we are in the midst of frightening ambitions for power on both sides.
As my dear mother used to say, God save us!
Coincidentally, today I published a post related to this issue; here is the link: https://peakd.com/hive-125125/@josemalavem/larga-noche-ejercicio-poetico-a.
Thank you for your thoughts. Best regards.

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As my dear mother used to say, God save us!

Unfortunately, if there was a god, it does nothing until after we are dead.

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The idea that bombing a nation doesn't mean being at war is a troubling narrative that deserves more examination.

Such claims might support political purposes, but they overlook the genuine human toll, which includes possible civilian deaths and lasting geopolitical consequences.

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There has been no mention of the casualties. And when Israel was killing nuclear scientists last week, it was considered a good thing. They were scientists, not soldiers.

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There’s so much AI slop out about this topic already. Video, text, images. We are truly living in a “post-war” (as in… “this isn’t war”) era, but that is also the strongest feeling that we are now too, truly in a “post-truth” era.

I just wish that more people would post the truth.

For me, I’m not going to worry about things I can’t influence. I’m going to keep a roof over my head, and act with integrity in all my interactions with others. We need that more in the universe now than ever.

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I just wish that more people would post the truth.

Truth doesn't exist for humans - just flawed perspectives of it.

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Is it possible for any biological entity? So far as we know, we're analogue creatures in an analogue universe. Perhaps the truth is the blurry line between the perspective of two different observations.

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Is it possible for any biological entity?

I don't think so. There must be an objective truth for everything. But we are far too limited to understand it.

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Do you feel safer after the US bombed Iran?

I would feel safer if all the world would stop using bombs. So I guess I am not gonna feel safer anytime soon.

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Well, it could be that enough bombs go off, so that none of us can ever use one again.

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I think I've mentioned previously than I'm of the opinion that you have to be okay with any given thing being done to you personally or to anyone you care about. If you're not okay with that then you're not okay with it.

obviously generic "you" not necessarily you personally

I don't think a lot of people who say they are okay with it actually would be without a lot of self delusion.

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I don't think a lot of people who say they are okay with it actually would be without a lot of self delusion.

I agree. But I think there are a lot of delusional people! :D

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With a president like Trump, there will be no peace in the world anytime soon. We will wait for the world markets to fall on some bad news. There is nothing else we can do.

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Seems that is the way it will go.

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I just came back from Hawaii, and this scared me a lot, and still does. Even though I am back in the Philippines, my sister and her family lives in Hawaii, and I know that Hawaii is one of the first targets that enemies will be firing at.

From what I've read, this strike was done without the go ahead from Congress, which makes it crazy to hear. If it was done from just a whim, and without any checks and balances, that can be a scary thought.

At this point I'm just hoping all parties try and find a peaceful resolution. There are a lot of innocent lives being lost based off a few leader's bad decisions.

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Taking a higher level view, my concern is that more and more we are seeing the framework of "international law" being eroded or subverted to serve the ends of the globalists.

Without truly independent evidence, the claim that Iran was days/weeks/months/whatever away from a nuclear weapon (together with the claim they'd immediately use it) has about the same level of confidence as the false claim of WMD that led to the wars with Iraq (once that country ceased to be an obedient tool).

Striking nuclear sites is a breach of the Non Proliferation Treaty. Assassinating military leaders and civilian scientists sets the precedent that when some country decides to attack United States or some other Western country, the first we'll know of it will be a similar massive decapitation attack. There is now no distinction between civilians and military, so wars will revert to conflicts of genocide which end when one side or the other is totally eliminated.

Libya, Iraq, Syria - all states that abandoned or didn't have nuclear weapons programs, all now bombed into failed state status. Pakistan and North Korea; nuclear armed, maybe pariahs but not attacked. There is a strong lesson here which nations all around the world will take heed of, especially in the light of the attack on Iran taking place during a supposed diplomatic process (even if it was one loaded with threats and ultimatums). It's clear that Israel and the US have regime change and the collapse of Iran as their war aims, so is there any incentive for Iran NOT to race for a nuclear weapon and actually use it now ? Even if Iran falls, a proud nation of 90 million with a 3000 year history won't forget this kind of humiliation easily. Just ask Germany.

There are no good guys here, but some are definitely worse than others......

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However, will you be okay when 99% of everyone else surrounding you is not? Are you self-sufficient to the point that if attacked by an angry and hungry mob, you would be able to defend?

Scary thoughts which I had sometimes when I imagined "limit scenarios". I know it's highly unlikely I would be ok in such a world...

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The problem is of course, we don't live a hundred years ago, so war doesn't stay on the other side of the world, and it isn't only fought by professional militaries.

The surgical precision of the strikes against Hisbollah and Iran amazed me in comparison to the ongoing hell in Gaza. But that's just it. Hisbollah and Iran are organized, professional military. They can be fought easier, they're more visible. Partisan fighters are way harder to beat, which causes a lot more "collateral" damage.

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