Culturally Agnostic

In the context of software development, language-agnostic means something is designed to be independent of any specific programming language. It implies that the underlying concept, algorithm, or system works the same way regardless of the programming language used for implementation.

What is it with so many neo-nazi marches lately? So much skin-based nonsense and "protect our culture" bullshit over the last decade. Yeah I get that people identify with a whole lot of random shit that they had no say in and often played no part in, but at some point, will we ever grow the fuck up?


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It won't be too long until humans are language agnostic.

And when we are, I just wonder what that would mean for culture as we know it, considering so much of it is tied to language. Essentially, once everyone can talk directly to one another and can't talk in front of others in a different language, a whole lot of issues both arise, and get swept away simultaneously. There will no longer be the "lost in translation" excuse.

But removing language barriers also removes a lot of protections for culture, which means a more diverse group of people can interact and learn from a culture, but also influence that culture too. Which brings up the obvious problem with "protecting our way of living" because in order to successfully protect a way of life, it means that the way can no longer change and evolve. This means that the way of that life, is death.

As I see it, as soon as there is a common language, we are able to take large leaps forward as a society, because we aren't reliant on the "negotiators" (governments) to do the deals for us. We are able to do more for ourselves, and deal far more directly. It is like in the fantasy books where orcs, humans, elves, and trolls, all speak a common tongue. They have a trade language. But it isn't the trade of goods and services that will be most valuable for humanity, it will be the trade of experiences.

A lot of companies talk about the "value of diversity" as if it is about skin colour and sexual orientation, but that is silly, because you aren't even allowed to talk about those things in the workplace. The value of diversity is in the skills and experiences a persona brings into the company. The company by default should be skin colour, sex and sexual orientation agnostic, unless there is some good reason not to be. And once language translation is at a high enough level (it needn't be perfect, because communication is never perfect, even in the same language), then the company should become language agnostic also - and hire the best people for the job, regardless of the languages they can or can't speak.

Essentially, technology should be bringing down barriers of communication and allowing us to have more options. But this also exposes previously language-protected communities too. And this creates many of the problems we see in society. For instance, 200 years ago "mass migration" wasn't an issue, because mass anything was pretty bloody difficult. People would filter here and there, a bit at a time, over the space of decades. The cost of migration was high.

But now we live in a digitally connected world, where it is possible to move over the other side of the globe and still talk to family and friends in real-time. And it is possible to work in multiple time zones, and trade value back and forth in an instant across borders, and transfer wealth in a few clicks - but we expect culture to stay the same?

What culture do you want to preserve?

Like a cured meat? Stick it in a can with a bunch of salt? But the problem with preserving a culture, is that none of us live in a single culture and are constantly moving amongst multiple, often simultaneously, without it really registering. This means that one part of our life is compared to all other parts of our life and, we are going to carry all other parts of our life into each individual part.

We change our culture.

Because mixing gives a better experience.

Yet there we are, marching in the streets, trying to save something that is unsalvageable, because it is always moving. There is no culture to save, because culture is always going to change, until it is dead, buried and forgotten. And at that point, there is no one left to care.

Instead of protecting memories of the past, we should be building something fucking awesome for the future. We just haven't grown up enough yet, I guess.

Taraz
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It's the same old story: human beings stumbling over the same stone. We generate conflict by clinging to the idea of preserving cultures as if they were static objects, fighting against their inevitable evolution. Instead of learning from the past to build a future, we insist on repeating patterns of resistance to change, demonstrating time and again that we haven't matured enough to move forward. And perhaps, we will never evolve in that sense.

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I don't think we will ever grow up. We are doomed to repeat until repetition kills us all.

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Indeed, society becoming language-agnostic both has merits and demerits, it depends on us humans to choose which we prefer. I think the government is naturally averse to the society becoming language-agnostic because if they're not, it's easier to control them because of language barriers. I wonder if cultures can be still be preserved while we become language-agnostic at the same time.

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it's easier to control them because of language barriers.

And the divisions create a handy mechanism to keep people fighting amongst themselves.

I wonder if cultures can be still be preserved while we become language-agnostic at the same time.

I don't think any culture is preservable.

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It's sad isn't it? You would have thought by now that we would have evolved enough to leave those biases behind.

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It is not just skin and language biases. I am trying to acquire a property in a rural America in Washington state and there is definitely anti-eastern European bias, perhaps they associate us with Russians. And even possibly the folks from the city bias... Makes it really hard to do business. People would literally not take your money...

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perhaps they associate us with Russians.

Well, when you sound like an oligarch ;D

People would literally not take your money...

It is quite strange, isn't it? Though, I suspect that there is a price they would sell for. "Morals" are price sensitive.

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Though, I suspect that there is a price they would sell for. "Morals" are price sensitive

You are correct about that, it took a lot of persistence and greasing the path and involving locals that "understand" but they eventually did yield to the pressure to sell.

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I have never understood nationalism. All people are equal. I will approach a beggar and a millionaire, a representative of different nationalities, with the same respect, until we start talking. After the conversation, I understand that almost everyone has a lot of patterns in their head and an unwillingness to give them up.

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I will approach a beggar and a millionaire, a representative of different nationalities, with the same respect, until we start talking.

I do the same. So much so that out of a strange turn of events, I know the current president of Finland a little. When he was a minister we were talking properly for the first time and he said, "I like talking to you Taraz, you treat me like a normal person". :D

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I think as we grow more connected, we ought to embrace the fusion of experiences instead of holding onto old notions of identity. Progress happens when we mix and evolve together ;)

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Progress happens when we mix and evolve together ;)

And that progress tends to be better looking. :D

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Preserving culture is seemingly impossible. The world is becoming increasingly global. For example, 20 years ago, where I lived, people of the same ethnicity and religion lived together. Wedding culture has changed significantly from 20 years ago. I think cultures will become less important in the coming years.

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I think cultures will become less important in the coming years.

I think so. Or they will change form and become micro, worrying even more about tiny differences.

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I agree that culture is alive and constantly changing, and trying to preserve it in an “untouchable” form is, in a way, to condemn it to extinction. The idea of a “language agnostic” world is fascinating, as it would allow an unprecedented exchange of experiences, but would also challenge our notions of identity and belonging. Perhaps the real challenge is learning to evolve together without fearing the loss of what makes us unique.

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I'm all for language preservation (or maybe it's conservation, not to be confused with conversation XD) but it's not like language is a static thing either. I'm not sure what you're referring to (I'm assuming there was some event that made it into some news) but I usually find that the people who want to "preserve" anything seem to basically just don't want anything to change at all ever.

I really should have just studied linguistics at uni instead of biology and multimedia or whatever it's called now

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