Sometimes it becomes necessary to kill a tree, here's how to do it!

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This tree was growing between two houses, and we hired it removed. But they left a 14 foot tall stump, trying to get extra cash for removing that too! It is still 3 foot diameter, and began growing out the top; so it had to be terminated.
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I told my Son to run the chainsaw around the stump, to kill it. It didn't work! I decided to follow his cut to see why it didn't work....

We took another cut at it; and I decided to be sure that the cambien layer under the bark was CUT! I ordered a chain saw attachment for my angle grinder.
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I found out why the chain saw didn't kill it. Most of the bark is about an inch thick, but this tree; had 4 inches of bark! It was an elm tree, and had been affected by some elm tree disease; so it became unsafe to leave intact.

I went to war with this bark:
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Fortunately, the chainsaw attachment was up to the job! For a while, with a full faceshield for my regular chain saw; I became a sawdust submarine! I actually wore a mask (but I'm pretty sure the tree didn't have COVID) to survive the dust cloud. My eyes, behind a full face shield and glasses; still are dry from the sawdust I fought!

The reward is the sap running out of the cut:
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The sap running out here was heading up to the new growth, when you see this; the battle is over, you won! To really kill this tree, it took a 2 inch wide trench; ten feet long to finally remove the cambien layer. This deprives everything above the cut of sap; which is the lifeblood of the tree! The tree will now begin to sprout from the base, so next year that will need to be removed too, but the tree will eventually run out of supplies.

If I had it to do over again, I'd wear swimming goggles; that was an amazing amount of sawdust! After it was done, it took a while to become human from the dust statue; by removing the layer of dust, to get back to clothes!

One less problem....



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How old do you think this tree is?As such, safety is a must for this to work. Have a nice day ..!
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With elms I'd guess about 75 years. The majority of the tree was removed by crane last year, so it's pretty safe. About 14 feet left standing, which they wanted to add about half more cost to remove! I WAS going to use them some more, but instead ran them off! Very unprofessional!!!!

I may take my long bar saw, and slab this vertically, and use the lumber. 4 inch slabbed slices are easier to control and move. But first, it needed to stop growing!

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To prevent it from growing, you must first remove its roots. When it stops growing, you will be able to cut it off easily and by doing it slowly, you will be able to cut it off completely in no time.

And I'm pretty sure you won't waste a single bit of it because you know how to use it.
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I like that idea, but she's too close to both houses to get to the roots. I plan to plug it with mushroom spore, and let them fight it out, after it's slabbed for wood. If I could get my backhoe in there, it would be root time for sure!

Besides, the mushrooms would be tasty, LOL!

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sure. You're saying right
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Hope the mushrooms work, it would cut the fight time down. But at least the tree is dead now!

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Yeah i think it's definitely work.

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If it weren't between two houses, I'd take my Backhoe to it and dig out the stump for sure. But we work with what we have, LOL!

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Likewise, we can only use what we have and now we have to work with that.

If this method works and it stops growing, you can easily cut it off .
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It's still tonnage, so I'll need to be careful, and remove it in small pieces. If it just wasn't so close to everything, including the power lines; it would be easy!

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Sure sir 😍 you can do it. 😉 have a nice day 😁

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You too, be safe! But that tree will come down....

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Hahah definitely sir😂😂😂

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But it will be in smaller, manageable pieces!

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A lot of trees take to a process called "coppicing." It sounds like this elm will be playing that game for a while until you can get to the roots. Once the absurdly tall stump is firewood or a chainsaw sculpture or whatever you can do with it, the roots may need to be burned out.

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It's a tough old bugger for sure! I plan to fight fire with fire. Now that it's cut, I'm going to put my mushroom plugs into it.

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This was a tough job brother. I know how tree stamps can be stubborn. There was a time my dad gave me an assignment to remove some mature trees from a site on which he wanted us to erect a new homestead down hill. I would cut the tree using an axe then proceed to dig out its stamp. This proved a little bit cumbersome.I thought of just digging the trees up instead felling trees then dig.

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It's tough for sure! The more power that can be used, the easier the process. The axe is worst, but is also a sure method! Working on a hill is harder too, glad you didn't get hurt!

Be blessed!!!

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I think I love this method.

Where I come from, they use salt to kill trees permanently

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Salt is good, but this one is large enough to leave a large dead spot from the salt needed. I plan to add mushroom plugs to attack the stump in the spring. I hear good things about mushroom breakdown of stumps! I'll need to slab out the upper part first to be safe from collapse later, too close to both houses....

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The same thing happened to me when I lived in Argentina, there were two trees called elm trees in the dividing wall, they were 14 metres high and the neighbour next door was going to build, there was no alternative but to remove them, but everything turned out well, when they fell they could have broken a house but everything turned out well.

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Trees are nice, but they can be a risk for sure! When the get into narrow areas, it is more dangerous. They came in with a crane, and lifted, while they cut off that piece. Once lowered into the yard, they made short work of each part.

I'm glad you guys got lucky, and no houses were damaged!

Keep on on prepping.

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I will do so! Hug!

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We need all the smart people to survive to rebuild after!

Be blessed!

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It is true, intelligent people who are awake to the truth.

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Most intelligent people are aware now, of the danger we all face!

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It's true, and many are waking up...

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Thankfully true, I just hope it isn't too late!

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I'm sure the more intelligent one will do better, because they can make what they need! The best survival tool is the grey matter between the ears....

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Be blessed!

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Be blessed too!

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He is always watching out for us...blessings for certain!

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Yes, I always feel your presence, thank you!

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Since He plans much better than I can, I'm sure He will fill in where I have gaps!

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So it will be, he knows everything.

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And watches over us all! That brings a lot of comfort....

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Knowing that we are protected also gives us security and strength.

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True, but we are to use our brains, and avoid problems where possible.....

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Be smarter than the... bad guys

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We have to work very hard, because their Boss is really smart!

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Yes it is, but it is a way to find a way

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Asking GOD for prepping direction, will defeat the father of lies. Works every time!!!!

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He is the only one who knows everything and can protect us.

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And HE has Promised to do so!

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It's nice to be covered! A Man at church told me that I shouldn't prep, but just rely on GOD. I told him I was, but I was prepping to take care of him...it shook him up! He started prepping, to help others.

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You have to help him also to prepare the rest of the people, very wise what you said....

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Got home going at least, ROFLOL!

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😀😀😀get some rest!

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Can't, putting brakes on my car today....

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Brakes done, car's better now!

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Great!!!😀

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Doesn't take long if you pre-order the parts! Fix what's wrong, and they run a Long time....

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That's super cool!!

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I have an older car (07) that runs like a brand new one, because all wear is replaced with new parts!

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I don't have a car, but I understand what you're talking about! It's great!

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Keep it new inside, and it runs a long time!

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But a lot of people ignore their machinery until it quits.

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If that's true... like nobody knows what they have until they lose it....

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Taking things for granted can cause that for sure!

I was planning to make a grilled cheese sandwich yesterday, in a cast I iron skillet. Then I realized that the skillet and I were the only two things left here from our wedding in 1977! I wasn't hungry anymore....

You don't know what you have until you loose it!

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That is what it means to appreciate things, however small they may be, to know how to appreciate them.

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Yes, we are lucky, and need to remember that, when life kicks us around....

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Exactly, not to forget, to make us stronger!

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Strength comes from many sources, but primarily today by being ready for anything. GOD's blessings are a source of strength that we can use as a foundation!

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God guides us in unsuspected ways, we just have to let ourselves be led by him.

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That is what's important, letting him lead us where he wants us to go! It's rewarding to be GOD's hands here on Earth, even though he doesn't need any help.

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I let myself be guided, he took me out of Argentina and brought me to Spain.... I just let myself be guided by his signs!

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I'm glad you moved to a safer spot, by following His leading!

So stay blessed....

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Argentina was no longer safe and economically unlivable, not even for food.

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Socialism is a cancer, I'm glad you found another place that worked! I hope Spain avoids socialism. We are facing those same problems here now, as the Democrats are socialist and Communists!

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Right now there is a terrible mess because the president wants to perpetuate himself in power, he is a socialist, in short... We'll see what happens.

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Damn, I was hoping you weren't in the same mess as we are! The countryside will be safer...for longer; hope you can find a good spot off the beaten path.

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Don't worry, just in time everything will work out for the best.

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He has promised to help us through it, so I know we'll be just fine! He will make their evil work for our good.

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It will be, I'm sure it will

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We sure live in interesting times! But prepping will help....

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Sure, I have no idea what it will look like but it will be interesting.

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We just need to preserve our options, and out think their bad policies!

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exactly, if we are well informed and prepared we will succeed.

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Prepping consists of thinking the impossible, and planning to deal with it! It's hard to sink to their level, to understand and plan....

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I hope we can imagine things so strong that we can cope with them.

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Me too, I keep preparing for low probability disasters now. The more common I've already allowed for!

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Do you know about Bill Gates' mosquitoes?

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I've seen stuff on them, not Shure how much to believe....

Moving rural sounds better every day!

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I have been told about taking refuge in the mountains, caves and similar places, we will see what comes up.

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A cave is a comfortable place, very even temperature. It's good to have a plan!

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I am making enquiries about the possibility of moving to a place far away from the city.

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Good, it's best to be moved before things crash! Hope you find something nice...and remote.

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I hope so, it's difficult but I'm working on it. I will follow the signs

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We can only do what is possible. Working on it will find the right place! Mine is 52 miles out in the country from here....

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I will find mine, I know it.

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I truly believe you will, just keep looking! Persistence will make it happen....

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I will do it!

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Send pictures when you find it! I'm sure it's waiting for you now.

Be blessed!

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I will do it! And I will create a post with those photos.... Thanks!

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Great idea, I look forward to that post!

Be blessed!

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In my life these changes have come at just the right time, I know it will come, relax, I am.

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Yes, GOD plans better than I do for certain! When I bought the homestead, I was looking for rental property. Then I realized what it could be!

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That's why I know that God will help me and will put before me what I must do, I trust!

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He will definitely guide your steps! He watches over us all the time!!! That's comforting to know....

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It is very reassuring to know that if we put ourselves in his hands he will do the best he can.

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Yes, and his best is impressive! I'm happy with whatever he decides!!!!

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And me too!

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He does take care of us all! It's nice having someone watching over us....

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This is the most encouraging thing😀

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It does bode well for our prepping, because He plans perfectly!

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It's true... yesterday I had some bad news, my aunt is very ill.... side effects of the poison.... aggressive cancer, this year has been very hard...

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There are herbs to fight cancer, if she would use them, I'd be happy to help her!

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When I told my aunt and uncle not to get vaccinated... they didn't listen to me... they follow the traditional way unlike me

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I'm fighting cancer myself, so that's not idle talk. I've been helping people fight cancer for several years, and I'm making good progress on my own problem.

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That's very encouraging to hear from someone who is going forward and that natural helps. Thank you and I hope soon you will no longer have that problem. I will take your words to heart.

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It is working well enough that the doctors are confused over the results I'm getting!

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I am very happy about that!!!! very much!!!

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They planned to do surgery until they found the tumor was totally gone, and the area was perfectly healthy.

The doctor had to cancel his order for a new Mercedes I suspect, ROFLOL!

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I was delighted to read this!

I'm sorry for the doctor but I'd rather you were in good health!

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I'm headed there as fast as I can. I'm Getting better every day, and the herbals are doing the most good! They tell me it was stress induced, and I lost my Wife of 44 years in April to a hospital acquired infection; so the majority of the stress is now relieved.

She wanted me to take care of our family, and to remarry...the first I plan to do, the second I just can't.

I have to get healthy again to do the first, so I will keep the herbs coming!

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The illness of cancer like all illnesses are emotional, they are generated by a triggering event, if the event disappears or is healed by mourning, the cancer will disappear, I am sure. I have seen tumours heal instantly. I know it can be done. And I know you can.

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It gets better every day, healing fast! Early next year I'll refuse radiation treatment, because there's nothing left big enough to need this kind treatment!

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Well done! Keep it up, I'm glad to read that!

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They apparently wait for the patient to be in a lot of pain, so you'll agree to any treatment they want to do. My initial paid stopped when I started using herbals, and while they waited; the problems disappeared! They are confused....

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Traditional medicine is a big business, the more drugs you take, the sicker you get, you have to avoid them as much as possible.

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That I Am doing! After a lot of discussion, I'm taking one prescription at 40% normal dose (to limit the side effects). But the radiation is not specific enough for it to be useful to me, because to here is nothing big enough to be a good target for it! They waited too long, to try to make more money off of my issues...now they're loosing out, LOL.

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Doctors follow the pharmaceuticals, I think a lot of them ignore a lot of things and act automatically.

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I have them confused and a little worried, things they want to treat keep disappearing! GOD's medicine works so much better than their prescriptions.

They will get me to take a few I have researched and agree with, but most will be refused!

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That's the way to talk! God's medicine is the true medicine!

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I actually told the Doctor exactly that, that he was second string healing! Then I gave him the research references on the herbals, kind of shook him up....

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I'm already spreading the word about the green pharmacy book, it's very interesting!

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I use it often, I'm Glad you like it! When you find herbals that help, buy seeds and plant a pharmacopeia garden.

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I will definitely do it, medicinal herbs are the best thing in the world!

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Great, hope you find the perfect place soon!

Be blessed.

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I'll be fine, wherever God leads me I'll go... the place will appear...

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I believe you are right, it will show soon!

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Coming soon!

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Post pictures, ROFLOL!

But I'm sure you're right....

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I will, I will!

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I'm sure you'll find a spot off the beaten path, with lots of shade and a good garden spot!
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Here's where I found:
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Not done yet:
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But closer for sure.

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That's great!!!!!!! I love it, and what a beautiful view, it's the best thing in the world!

Thank you sos os much!

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The travel trailer is my 'lifeboat' while I finish upgrading the main building to run on solar power. Lots left to do, but I'm working on it!

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But you will make it, we are on the right track!

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That's true, on the right road! We just lack finishing up, LOL.

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And we are walking step by step!

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Many small steps can make a successful long journey!

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I think exactly like you, thank you! This message comes at a difficult time for me, thank you!

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Hope the difficulties resolve themselves! Five doctor appointments for me today...tired of this; so I understand!!!!

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Suffer a scam.... it's just money. My health is intact, so go ahead!

You will overcome everything I know, one step at a time.

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There are a lot of small, lazy people; that put all their energy into stealing from others! If they tried as hard at working, as at stealing; they'd be rich today....

Hope they get caught! Keep positive, and keep prepping.

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That's what happened, now let's get on with it!

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That's best, dwell on these disgusting people; and it can hurt your health!

Move right back to prepping for the future....

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Exactly, they are negative thoughts, I will keep on preparing myself!

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I refuse to allow jerks like this to rent a space in my mind, they don't deserve that level of respect!

The best thing is to succeed well, in spite of them!!!! I'm pulling for you....

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Thank you for those words, they really encouraged me, I was a bit down, but you are absolutely right, it would be a negative thought that I would have in my mind and it is not worth it.

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Glad I helped some, and I'm very glad you're putting it behind you! I have a brother that still complains about some stuff that was stolen from him a decade ago. The thieves don't even remember it by now....

I do hope they get caught, but it's good you have moved on; very healthy way to go!

Be blessed!

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If they don't get caught, the twists and turns of life will take over, that's how it is. The important thing is oneself! Thank you

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GOD already knows about them, they are already caught!

But you're right, don't let it affect you; and things will sort themselves out just fine!

Keep on prepping!

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Looks like an old tree? 100 years old?

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Old, but not sure how old. I guessed 75 years, but a core would give a count for age. I have one on the homestead that is 5 feet across, and oak; that's a lot of years on it!

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oh man, 75 years. it's old very old. it must have seen many things.

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True, lots of History there! The big oak on my homestead is 5 feet across, so it may be twice as old.

I wish the elm had been somewhere else! With the houses so close, I couldn't risk doctoring the tree either!

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